Solar Analytics has long offered some of the best energy monitoring software on the market, but some customers recently have been plagued by dropouts and poor customer support. We’ve investigated to see what’s going on.
We’ve been longtime fans of Solar Analytics, who offer a solar monitoring app that provides users with insights about their solar, the ability to diagnose faults, and control to optimise performance.
A handful of Solar Analytics customers in recent times however have approached us over some turbulence in their once-trusty software.
One customer, who asked to be referred to as Krubi, was experiencing issues, including dropouts also reported by other Solar Analytics users to us.
“We’ve had Solar Analytics for 6+ years, and until about 8 months ago it was great — it allowed us to monitor our usage and generation in near-realtime,” she told Solar Quotes.
“Since SA was bought out by Catch Power, the performance has dropped dramatically, noticeably so since the move from 3G to 4G. We now have system communication failures about once a week that typically require 2 or 3 reboots to get it working again. Even when the system is working, the displayed data lags by as much as 0.5-1 hour (both app and web). This means I can’t adjust my usage to advantageously use solar generation as I no longer have up-to-date data on which to make decisions. This problem is not isolated to one system — we own a duplex and have the same problem with data-lag and unreliability on both systems.”
Solar Analytics Points The Finger At 3G
Around 12 months ago Solar Analytics was taken on by Catch Power, which meant the subscription business model, found difficult by the likes of ChargeHQ, was no longer a problem. Becoming a feature of the Catch Control hardware delivered both a steady economic base for the service and an array of extra features for Catch Control devices.
We reached out to Solar Analytics, with a representative claiming the dropouts were related to the shutdown of the 3G network, not the acquisition by Catch Power, but clarified that the lag issues Krubi reported were not a problem they had seen before.
With the 3G network closing down, bandwidth is being redistributed, which is the whole point of the operation. It means the limited radio spectrum can be better utilised by more wireless devices.
However it means old reliable 4G sites with solid signal strength are being made marginal. The new lack of signal strength causes dropouts and patchy service.
There’s no single pain point, with multiple companies, networks, different generations of SIM cards and access contracts involved.
Solar Analytics recommends people affected by dropouts add a hi-gain antenna, or upgrade to to a Catch Control system, for which the company is offering a 50% off RRP discount to existing Solar Analytics customers, reducing the installed cost for single phase home to about $400.
When you buy CatchControl there is no ongoing subscription cost for any of their apps. You get Analytics for free, including the retail plan optimiser.
Catch Control also has it’s own monitoring portal called the Monacle, which is the only one I’m aware of offering a ready notification that your network has activated dynamic limiting or emergency backstop.
The shutdown of 3G in favour of 4G and 5G has caused a raft of issues for some Solar Analytics customers.
One Unhappy Customer
The recommended fixes weren’t of much help to Krabi, however.
“We have already installed a high-gain antenna (yes, easy DIY), with only limited improvement. We have two adjacent properties (duplexes) and have installed high-gain antennas mounted on the roof of each. In each case, only minimal improvement has been effected by the antennas,” she said.
“It’s not clear to me how I might access the discount for the Catch Control — I’ve searched the website and found nothing about the discount for existing Solar Analytics customers, nor can I find anything on the Solar Analytics website.”
Customer Service Is Dropping Out Too
Solar Analytics customers aren’t just experiencing dropouts in the technology — they are also copping them in customer service.
Several customers told us that they were getting little to no response despite making multiple complaints about the issues being experienced.
I have fielded complaints about unanswered tickets or long delays for plenty of other companies in the sector too — these issues stretch across the solar industry. Catch Power has been recruiting and so have all the other solar industry manufacturers to get more people on board.
WattWatchers Better Watch Out
Solar Analytics used to subcontract the actual hardware we installed in switchboards from Wattwatchers, and in my experience, that hardware has been randomly blowing up for years.
I recall vividly pulling one from a switchboard in a childcare center which had a hole burnt through it. The inner workings had self-immolated, and luckily, besides a scorch on an adjacent circuit breaker, nothing else was damaged.
Sadly, some continue to fail, but Wattwatchers are still making them in Australia and sending them out.
We have it on good authority that delays and poor service will see Solar Analytics take their business elsewhere if things don’t improve soon. This reminds me I need to chase up one of my own units that never came back from a warranty claim.
The only image I have of a din rail mounted analytics unit, taken just to record serial numbers. The other side had a hole burnt through it.
Top Technical Tip : If your analytics device is playing up and you want to reset it by switching off & on again you MUST have patience. 30 seconds isn’t enough to fully shut down these units, even when the lights go out on the unit they retain functionality to ride through short power outages. Turn it off and come back 5 minutes later to re-energise it.
The figures can be pretty eye watering when you have 200kW of solar on a nursing home.
Still A Useful Tool
Despite the issues being faced by some customers, I personally still find Solar Analytics to be a useful tool. For example, we recently had a customer with a solar problem. The root cause was some large trees on the median strip, but the complaints were mainly about perception. While the installer had gone over and above to deliver a great system, there was consumer doubt about its performance, which simply couldn’t be assuaged by the installer, the inverter maker or my own judgment. Having an independent source of truth was a great help.
Solar Analytics is great for individual or fleet monitoring with unique ability to compare output for your system against others in the district. It means the particular weather across your locality becomes part of the calculation.
I’ve written before about places such as nursing homes that can save themselves thousands of dollar per quarter if they will only pay some attention to monitoring.
Analytics won’t send false alerts when the network is doing random curtailment for flexible exports or backstop control, but it will flag performance problems with your solar when something fails or when performance falls off due to shade from a growing tree.
It also has the smarts to identify when my heat pump hot water comes on at night, triggering an email suggestion to save money by moving it to the daytime.
It’s very clever, and it’ll keep a trained eye on your system, which has a better attention span than this solar electrician.
There are many alternatives for monitoring like Powersensor or Clipsal Cortex, however if you’ve already got years of data saved with Solar Analytics then it’s brilliant resource for reviewing the real performance of your system.
Long term data is unarguable and that’s priceless if you need to make a warranty claim for panel degradation or over promised sales quotes.
“Solar Analytics recommends people … upgrade to to a Catch Control system, for which the company is offering a 50% off RRP discount to existing Solar Analytics customers”
I am a Solar Analytics (well, “was” I guess now) whose monitoring was terminated when the 3g network was taken down.
At no point has Solar Analytics mentioned any upgrade option via Catch Control – and certainly no option for a discounted one.
Their advice was just to go back to my original installer.
Can you advise how I would access this ?
Should I give Catch Power a ring ?
I don’t see any mention on their website, and it looks like you need to find your won installer
Link is here on the CATCH website to apply for the 50% discount. Valid for all existing Solar Analytics customers.
https://www.catchpower.com.au/solar-analytics#:~:text=Are%20you%20an%20existing%20Solar,with%20a%20CATCH%20Control%20device!
Hi Richard,
You can find a form to submit your claim for the 50% off here.
Once the form is submitted we will email you with a discount code.
https://www.catchpower.com.au/solar-analytics
If you have any trouble you can email me directly.
[email protected]
I have had similar problems (lengthy drop outs) at my previous house. Very poor response. Did not try the extension antenna.
Also had problems with values of energy imported from the grid. They were consistently about 15% greater than those reported by Synergy (yes I live in Perth).
Other issue that I raised with Solar Analytics without any success was the reporting on charging and discharging of the battery. These values were presented as a “net” figure, rather than as 2 values (one for charging and the other for discharging).
Have moved house and still considering whether to put on monitoring after the solar panels and battery are installed.
I’m in Perth too and noticed the export discrepancy too. Our consumption reads within 1% of our power bill but exports are 10% over. Did wonder if synergy was just doing some rounding down on the feed in though.
We had 3 good years with our 4g unit but on the 27th of Feb it just dropped connection and that’s it. 2 support tickets and zero response in 2 months.
I too am an installer of solar analytics and I would not recommend it to anyone anymore. Ever since catch power, ever since 3G to 4G there is absolutely no customer service. There’s no way of calling and getting to talk to someone. There’s no one to log in and have a look and see what’s going on. Emails just result in robot replies that tell you nothing. I would never recommend it to anyone. I signed up. I paid $600 for a lifetime subscription back in the day and then of course when all this happened. Sorry that doesn’t happen anymore now. No lifetime subscription. You’ll have to buy it all again and it doesn’t work. I can look at the figures and none of it makes sense because it’s just unreliable. Some days there’s data. Some days there’s no data. It makes no sense paying for data when the data is incorrect now. Historically it’s all going to be incorrect. If was just Wi-Fi then it would probably be okay. But, it’s absolute rubbish. So disappointed. $$$ Catchpower Backstop. $$$
If you have any issues please email me direct me and I can make sure you are put in touch with the right people. [email protected]
If you have any issues please email me direct me and I can make sure you are put in touch with the right people. [email protected]
The wireless connection on my Solar Analytics unit failed after several years of use. Previously after a drop out (usually after a power failure) it would reconnect after one (or several) reboot attempts, but this time no such luck. This was several months before the 3G network was switched off. I contacted my installer. The first suggestion was a high gain antenna, but that made no difference. After further negotiation on my behalf my installer replaced my Solar Analytics unit with a Catch Power Unit at no cost to me and I now have Solar Analytics working again with a wireless link through my home wifi network.
A great credit to Catch Power and kudos for fantastic customer service to my installer in NW Tasmania, Genr8.
That’s great to hear Lindsay, thank you for sharing your experience. Nathan and the team at Gen8 are fantastic to deal with!
I have an ongoing problem with Fronius’ Solar Web. Last weekend end, for example, I could not see real time production at all, only ‘Energy Balance’ which has a one and a half hour time lag. ‘Current Power’ showed as Off-Line. The inverter was visable and alive as a ‘Client’ in my router, at full strength on the 2.4 GHz band. This is hardly satisfactory when one relies on real time production to run the HWS and air-con. I rebooted the inverter several times and real time production came back, but only briefly.
About a year ago when I complained to the installer, the installer said he heard about it a lot and thinks the problem is Fronius’ servers. But why can’t the software operate independently of some distant inverter provider? Why can’t our laptops, phones and PCs just talk to our own inverter and ignore the rest? I had SMA Sunny Boy for 10 years and in that time never had a problem. There was never any dropout or loss of data.
I’m in the same boat. Before the 3G shutdown SA was great. I eventually got a new device installed by my installer and reception was shocking. It was offline half the time. They set up a high gain antenna and it’s better now but still nothing like what it used to be.
I have an (old?) lifetime subscription and I’m not planning on giving them any more money.
I’m getting more solar and a battery in the next couple of months so I will not be relying on Solar Analytics anymore as I will be able to monitor through the battery app.
Unfortunately as telco’s moved away from 3G to 4G and 5G the speed increases but the penetration decreases. This is unfortunately why the signal is not as reliable as we have seen previously.